Chronic Renal Failure, how long do they have?I took my cat to the vets on Thursday. Today is Saturday, he has been on a drip since taking him in and my vet told me he will be there on the drip till at least Monday. He had a multitude of tests and the results came back as Chronic Renal(kidney) Failure. They have put him on a special diet which he has started to eat. He is nearly 15.
Does anyone have any experience with CRF and the possible outcome? How long can they live with this disease?
Vets told me I might be able to bring him home for a while, I am just wondering how long we might still have with him.
My first question for more detail http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AqXAOIEZMLleWZHV3crXpqTsy6IX;_ylv=3?qid=20100325022751AAYFmso
Wow, PattyO and KenS your info is GREAT and I am going to have a hard time deciding between you the best answer.
some more info. He hasn't been on dry food, he get's that as a side dish but his main diet is raw chicken, steak, rice, pasta, whatever my son gives me in daily scraps from where he works. He especially loves the raw chicken and steak.
Posted by Truth Teller
Hard to call on that one. You factor the age in and its really difficult to tell for sure, you can just gove the cat the best you can give it and enjoy what time you have. If you are asking if you should put the cat down well again thats your call not anyone on here.
Posted by Judy E, RN
It depends on what you are willing to do. You can give him daily fluids under his skin which will prolong his life and make him feel much better. But you have to be able to stick the needle attached to the IV fluid into his skin. There is a lot on the internet about this. I don't know how long your cat will live, but my sister did this for a client for two years. The diagnosis is not always a death sentence. Look up the information on the internet...you can read about CRF cats and their owners and how they cope.
Posted by Patty O
It depends on your kitty and how he responds to the treatments and if he has any other health issues. Right now your vet is trying to flush kitty's kidneys and hydrate him. Unfortunately, by time a kitty is diagnosed in renal failure, they have lost approximately 70% of their kidney functions. CRF cannot be cured, but you can treat kitty and make him as comfortable as possible.
When my first kitty was diagnosed, she also spent 3 days at the vet on IV fluids. She came home with food and medications to help her appetite. CRF does not cause any pain to kitty, but kitty will have a general feeling of sickness. It also causes quite a bit of nausea and this is why kitty may not eat well. One trick I read about was to elevate the food and water dishes. The reason is the further kitty has to lower his/her head to a dish the more it increases the nausea. Elevating the dishes can be as simple as inverting a cereal bowl to put kitty's dish on. I put a piece of shelf liner--the thick waffle weave stuff--between the bowl and dish to keep it from sliding.
I have treated two CRF kitties. Sadly both have gone to the Rainbow Bridge. When my first kitty Maybelle was diagnosed, she did well for about 3 weeks after the first hospital stay, when I took her back for her checkup, she was hospitalized for another 3 days on IV fluids. When she was released the second time, I brought IV fluids home to administer starting every other day and worked up to twice a day towards the end. She responded well to being treated at home. No kitty likes to be stuck in a cage at the vet hospital. I treated Maybelle for four months after she was diagnosed...three months longer than the vet had given her!
The second kitty, Bonnie, was diagnosed in renal failure, complicated by congestive heart failure. She did not make it as long as Maybelle, since her heart was giving out, too.
Since kitty's kidneys will not be able to remove the toxins from his body, they come thru the skin. Kitty's coat will have an unkempt look and he will probably not feel like grooming. My kitties loved to be combed and to help them I 'washed' them with a very warm just damp washcloth. If you get him too wet, dry him with a towel and then comb him. This always perked Maybelle up.
Another thing I did for mine was give them Rescue Remedy. When they were having a bad day, I put a few drops of RR in their food and water. It helped calm them. Then I put a couple drops in a glass of water for myself to help me with stress and dread of their pending deaths. I got it at GNC or you can order it online.
Below is a wonderful website I found when Maybelle was diagnosed and I wanted to know everything I could find about this illness and what I could do to make her life easier.
Purrs to you and kitty.
Posted by Ken S
Hi
I read both of your posts. Diabetes i could have worked with you every day. CRF you dot need me everyday but you need to be proactive. Don''t buy what the vet tells you or is selling. here are your tools join the yahoo crf group I link and be proactive. I want many more anniversaries for you and your cat
Treatment of Chronic Renal Failure
If your cat is not in final stages, this is not want you want to do. You do not want to put your cat on the
Vets low protein diet. There are simply so many better options out there than to hand the poor cat a low amount of poor quality protein - which often results in a poor appetite and muscle wasting since the body is now robbing its own muscle mass to feed itself a decent quality and amount of protein.
. There are new thoughts on this and the thinking is it is not the amount of protein but the quality of protein that matters.
The Merck veterinary manual [www.merckvetmanual.com] says that cats need "4 g of protein of high biologic value per kg body wt/day". That's about 7 calories from protein per pound body weight per day. If a cat isn't a good eater and consumes, say, 20 calories per pound per day, then 7/20 = 35% of calories can safely be from protein. It must be high quality protein, which means meat, milk, and eggs, and not grain or soy.
I am under the assumption that you have been feeding mostly dry foods. Many use a vegetable based protein instead of animal and that is part of the problem.. Your cat needs protein as it is a carnivore and cutting down on it will lead to other health issues and may cause faster degeneration.
You want to cut down on phosphorous (no fish allowed now)
The best way to do this is with a raw diet which you can make yourself or buy. (Making yourself is better) link provided at the bottom
If you are unwilling to do that then something like the non fish flavors of Wellness or Merrick with NO grains are good alternatives. Wysong is also a good canned choice. This list gives a breakdown. Remember you want low phosphorous
http://binkyspage.tripod.com/CanFoodOld.html
http://binkyspage.tripod.com/CanFoodNew.html
You should be giving sub-Q fluids as needed.
You also will want to look into phosphorous binders. Something like aluminum hydroxide
Ask your vet or look into calcitrol
You may want to talk to the vet about having injectable Pepcid AC on hand or you can buy it in pill form (ac not plain pepcid) and give 1/4 tab for stomach upset which happens a lot in crf cats due to acid in the stomach.
I hope this stuff helps, here are many links for you
Making cat food
http://www.catinfo.org/makingcatfood.htm
other links. Read, read, read!!!!
http://www.felineoutreach.org/EducationDetail.asp?cat=KidneyDisease
http://www.marvistavet.com/html/kidney_failure_where_to_begin.html
http://www.felinecrf.org/
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About that vets diet. This report is for dogs but applies to cats
http://mousabilities.com/nutrition/crf/bovee_protein_RD.pdf
http://www.geocities.com/Vienna/Opera/21...
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