5/22/11

DS: How much of the fatal diseases plaguing young dogs do you think is genetic?


DS: How much of the fatal diseases plaguing young dogs do you think is genetic?There was a question posted by a person who lost her 11 month old puppy to cancer.

My daughter's GR has 2 deadly kidney diseases. (Back yard bred. My daughter took the dog she did not purchase fully aware the puppy had some serious problems)

I believe it is ALL genetics when dogs develop these life taking diseases so young.

Input is appreciated. No TDs from me. Best answer will be chosen.

Thank you.

Posted by ۞ Eyes of a Warrior-APBT ۞
Just other sad tragedy of someone buying from a BYBer, BYBers contribute to so many illnesses that arise in dogs today. I am very sorry to hear this.

I don't believe that merely genetics has things to do with dogs dieing young but it does play a huge role, other factors to consider are, disease, viruses, the dogs previous environment, things the dog came in contact with ect.

Posted by DaBasset *do not feed trolls*
Sometimes chit just happens.

Children get fatal cancers too. Is that bad breeding? Is it environment? Diet? Who knows?

Posted by Julie
Well, some diseases can't be tested for. An example would be kidney diseases- nobody would go off on a good breeder for not checking the dogs for kidney disorders. You can't check every single body part, so you're forced to check the ones that are most likely to have problems such as the hips, eyes, etc. If you know a breed is prone to problems in that area, you check that area. If not, you just have to hope for the best and if you discover a dog has an issue then stop breeding it.

I don't think that's genetic, to be honest. If the parents had that disease, how did they survive long enough to reproduce? I'm sure their owners didn't take them to the vet or care for the disorder like your daughter does. However, poor nutrition has been linked to kidney disorders in both humans and cats, so it could be the same in dogs. My best bet is that due to poor nutrition (from the BYB'er former owner) the dog developed issues. Even if it was being fed "enough", if it was being fed bad foods that could cause kidney issues.

As for cancer, you can't exactly test the parents to find out if they're likely to get cancer. We're still trying to develop that technology for humans and it'll be a long time before it's developed for dogs. All you can do is try to prevent it by not breeding dogs who have a lot of cancer in their lineage (ex- if every dog 3 generations back died from cancer, don't breed that dog!) and not breeding dogs who have it already. Can't exactly tell if a dog is GOING to get cancer.

ADD-- by the way, anyone ever heard of epigenetics?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epigenetics

It's VERY cool- basically what the mother does during the first couple days after conception is the absolute most important thing during the whole pregnancy as it determines so much about the baby's genetics. This could be a case of epigenetics-- if the mother was fed lousy food during her pregnancy, that could easily cause epigenetic issues in the puppies.

Posted by Aphrodite *Dobe uses a PRONG
I believe that these kinds of diseases are both from genetics AND what the dogs consume - just like people.
If your grandparents eat only McDonald's, then your parents eat the same way and then you are born - do you know how many health problems you are going to have even before you eat your first frech fry? lol

It's like genetic cancer (runs in my family). Started with my grandmother's brother, then my grandmother and now my mother. That isn't just a horrible coincidence - it's genetics.

Posted by Love my Meyer
I don't think it has to all do with genetics. Some dogs with no family history could get life taking diseases at a young age. Every dog is different and no matter what you do it cannot be guaranteed a completely healthy life. That is not just an opinion it is fact.

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